Morning Routines, Focus, and an Amazing Referral Workflow with Brent Sibley of Sibley Dolman
Brent Sibley is the founder of Sibley Law, and co-founder of Sibley Dolman Accident Injury Lawyers, LLP. Sibley Dolman Accident Injury Lawyers has multiple offices across Southeast Florida and is continuing to expand.
Brent is an elite personal injury attorney who has handled numerous high stakes litigation matters including many settlements in the 7-figures.
What’s in This Episode
- Who is Brent Sibley
- What is so important about morning rituals, and why it’s non-negotiable
- Why Brent was inspired to start Sibley Dolman with his partner, Matthew Dolman
- Brent shares how his firm made its first big leap to near seven figures
- … and so much more
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I am extremely excited because I have Brent Sibley, the founder of Sibley Law and co-founder of Sibley Dolman Accident Injury Lawyers. Sibley Dolman Accident Injury Lawyers has multiple offices across Southeast Florida and are continuing to expand. Brent has handled numerous high stakes litigation matters, including many settlements in the seven figures. Brent is an elite Personal Injury Attorney and I’m excited to have him on the show. Welcome Brent.
Wow, that makes me sound so, so official. I love it. Thanks Chris.
Yeah you’re welcome. So you know one of the first things I want to dig right into, because I know you personally, and because I follow you on Instagram is – I want to get right into my first question…
Let’s do it
You know, what’s a few of your daily rituals that you find most important, in particular your morning routine?
Yeah, man, my morning routine is everything. And I’m very adamant about sharing it in my stories. Like, I started really using the story is about a year ago – and I really incorporate that. I’ve experimented with making it part of my – trying to turn it into a blog. But to answer your question: the morning routine is very structured. It’s, um, I play with the wake up time a little bit, it varies from four to five. So when I’m able, when I’m in a good zone with our new baby, that we have (he goes to sleep at seven), so I get to bed pretty early, and if I do get to bed early, I’ll try and wake up at four. I go downstairs, which if you follow me on Instagram, you see this like every morning: I go downstairs, I kind of do one or two posts, I talk to my Instagram, I make my coffee, and I start reading my book.
Depending on, you know, where I’m at in terms of how backlogged I am on email, I do a little email – obviously get somewhere between an hour to two hours of quiet – just no interruptions time, which is the holy grail for you know – focus, clarity of mind, and everything.
And then I go to the gym, every day, you know, certainly every weekday. I get a full hour and a little bit there. And then I’m home I can see my baby around 7:30 getting a half an hour to an hour with the, with the baby, and the wife. And then I’m here in the office, again somewhere between eight to 8:30. And just after that morning, it’s just impossible to have a bad day. I mean, just crush the whole day. I mean everything just happens, honestly just like automatically. Nothing can go wrong once you, once you execute a morning like that. That’s, the way I see it, and keeps you honest, you know.
I don’t drink any alcohol anymore. Just because my morning routine is so sacred to me that I don’t want to mess it up at all by sleeping in, or being groggy you know. So, long winded answer but, that’s my morning routine, and a little bit on why it’s so important to me, and the way I operate.
Yeah, thanks Brent. So, guys Brent is getting up at four or five in the morning. He’s putting in the work, answering emails, you know, getting his meditation in, and you know, eating healthy, going to the gym, and this is all before he starts his day. So he’s already got this like, incredible momentum – clarity, focus – it just hit the day, you know running. It’s really exciting. It really sounds like a lot of your morning routine is similar like, how Elrod‘s kind of structuring that The Miracle Morning book that he’s got.
You know, I think I have that book on my list of “to reads”, but I haven’t read it.
But we saw him, I think we were together, we saw him at the Crisp video summit last year. It was either last year, or the year before. And he seems like a good dude. But yeah, man, I mean, in the hectic environment that we live in. If you don’t have a morning routine like mine, you basically are never gonna have any solitude. And everybody’s different. But for me, solitude is very important.
You know, I don’t need to be isolated all day in a cave like a hermit. But a little bit of solitude is critical, mission critical, for developing the big picture, seeing clearly, just having that time. And when I first put, I’ve experimented with this routine, like over the last 10 years, basically, since I was an adult, I experimented with it. Even when I was a single bachelor I experimented with it. And just, it’s just crazy important to have some time by yourself, like, you know, I mean, our – the business and the way we live now is, the cell phone is always going off. I mean, it’s, it’s nonstop. And, you know, I’m able to put it down when I’m with my wife for dinner and with the family. But, you know, as soon as I’m done with whatever I’m doing, I’m right back to the phone. And you know, rarely do you get extended periods of time where you could literally just, I could have, I just sometimes just put my phone in the corner in the mornings, and I just let it charge because just charging it anyway. And I get to two and a, one and a half, to two and a half hours where I can’t even do anything if I wanted to.
Like it is rude. It’s almost considered rude, to disrespect, to text people, email people. I still like to email people, I like to just demoralize people by sending them emails at 4:01am – I’m not gonna lie – but…
But I, there’s no compulsion at all. There’s no compulsion at all, that there’s any FOMO or anything like that. You just know that you have complete peace. You know, and it just allows you to get to a mental place that you just can’t get to during, you know.
It’s very similar to like, when you have like. As an attorney, you might have like a really important document, like an appeal that you need to write, or a big brief that you need to write. (And I’ve talked to a lot of lawyers in my business) It’s almost just impossible to do those kinds of tasks during business hours. You just know that if the appeal, the only time you’re going to write that appeal, or that brief, is going to be on a Saturday or a Sunday, where you just don’t have anybody that you owe an obligation to in the entire world to get back to them – and you can just turn everything off – and do that deep work. This is a topic – a book by Cal Newport that I read a while back, and it’s a big topic now – it’s become, (becoming) very trendy – but for good reason.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I, I respect the focus. I mean, that’s incredible. And the consistency, just, you’re doing this every single day – just sets you apart from every other individual. I mean, you get so much working in, in the morning. It’s just incredible.
So kind of changing the topic a little bit. Let’s talk about the firm. Let’s talk about the business. So, you know, how did you get started? How did Sibley Law start? Like what’s your founding?
Yeah, I mean, so, I’m pretty classic with the entrepreneurial blood. Like in ninth or tenth grade – I was 12, (10 -11-12-13) whatever. I started, you know. I mean, I guess the people that listen to this podcast are probably a little older, so they’ll remember this time. But this is a time where landlines were still pervasive, you still use dial up internet, and I…
Napster had just become a thing, and we were able to get an account or whatever it was. And I was burning CDs illegally – you know, no no shame – burning CDs illegally from Napster and selling them for ten bucks making mixtapes. You know, there was no iTunes, this was 1993. So there really, you couldn’t just buy a single at the time, right? You had to buy the whole album on on disk.
So I was like, well, I’m going to just, you know – most albums have one or two songs that people like. I’m going to just buy all the albums, put all the best songs on a disk, and sell – put a mixtape of the best 15 songs – and I’ll sell it for ten or fifteen bucks. And that was the beginning of my journey. And I, just I remember those days. It was DJ Scribley. People still, apparently, have some of the original discs from back then. I guess almost 30 years ago, which is pretty crazy. Um, and that was the beginning of my entrepreneurial journey.
So I was always – ever since then – it’s been this or that or you know. You know, buying and selling watches just entrepreneurial stuff through and through. And then, I was kind of just like I didn’t know what I wanted to do with my life. So I went to Law School and Business School. It just made sense. I was able to get mostly, mostly scholarship for that. I came back home.
And then I just got – I was doing Business Law, and it was really boring. Super boring, super dry. I’m like, basically pushing paper for businessmen. And I was like, this is not going to be what I do. So I was like, at that point, I guess I’m probably not going to practice law because it’s just boring.
And then randomly, I had passed the bar, and I was freaking out what my next job was going to be – my first job was going to be – and my, my basketball coach from growing up was at the restaurant where we’re celebrating. He was a personal injury attorney. He’s like, “well, you know, I just fired this guy, the junior attorney, I need someone new”. You know, “personal injury is very exciting”. Don’t be don’t, you know, “don’t be so distraught about the fact that your last job was really boring come to my office tomorrow we’ll talk”.
I went to his office the next morning, he started showing me how it works in the PI game industry. And I really loved it – I loved that there was no hourly billing, I love that you just have the clients you know, you evaluate each case. It’s like, kind of like the perfect thing for me. As like a deal junkie, always looking for like a case, or a deal to kind of just attack and you know, you get to get to meet new people, represent people, you know, help them maximize the amount of recovery that they get, guide them through the whole process. So then that’s how I pretty much I just fell in love with it.
I started going to court, and doing demand letters and the whole nine that – the next day. Actually that same day, he hired me and I just, he’s like “there’s your office, go to work”. So I started working for him. And you know, after about two years, I was just like, this is great. Like, I know how this industry works. I’ve settled cases, I’ve signed them off and I’ve gone all the way through to settlement. You know, obviously the next step for me is is to do this on my own. So I did it on my own, and then I was on my own for basically, about five years.
Then I ended up meeting my partner, Matt. We kind of did a little bit of, like, a la cart of business together. And then a couple years later, which is now two or three years ago, we said, let’s, let’s really, you know, get into bed together fully. And that’s where we are now. So that’s the, the shortest version, I can tell you of how I came to be sitting in the seat that I’m in right now.
And that’s the 80/20. So I’m going to dig in here, Brent. So when you started, and you went off on your own, and you’re like, “I’m going to make the move”. I’m gonna, I’m gonna go out on my own. What was it like? What were some of the actions that you took to get business because PI is so saturated. There’s just so much competition. What were some things that you did to hustle to, to kind of get your name out there?
This is, I’m so glad you asked. This is, this is another story that I’ve told many times. Because you know these things they sit, they stay, they get saved in your memory a certain way.
So the day, it was a Friday – the day I quit (my job). I said, “I’m going to do this”, “I’m going to be on my own”. This is now this is 2010. I got, I got barred in ’08, and then I left to go on my own in ’10 – about two years later. So I said, “alright, well, if I’m going to do this, I need a website”. Right? So how do I do that? I’m on the – as you know – I’m pretty technologically savvy. But, I’m by no means – I have no formal training, and no real work experience in tech. So all I have is like, you know, motivation and a general aptitude for it. So I got home from that day, five or six o’clock. I said, “I’m not going to go to sleep tonight, until I have a website that’s on the web”.
So, again, 2010 there’s already a lot of stuff, but it’s by no means where we’re at now in 2020. I was on YouTube, pulling up videos. What, “how do I register a domain”? Kind of, “where do I go to buy a domain”? And, you know, I thought it was gonna take me like a couple hours, maybe. But I think I went to sleep that night, at like 4am. And I had, I had a site, it was live. I got it all the way from zero. Literally, I was an employee at four o’clock in the afternoon. And at four in the morning, I had my own law firm, with a website. You know, virtually – I didn’t have office space – but I had 99% of what you need to do business. Actually, technically 100% and I just. I had my firm, I had my website, (it was obviously terrible looking but – doesn’t matter). It was there. People could see me. It had the validation.
When I left the firm, my boss basically was like these, these you can you know, “I don’t want these cases”. These small little cases anyway “that you’ve been working on”. “So just take these”. It was a win- win because he didn’t have anybody in his office that really would. This guy did really big cases. So my job was pretty much to do all the cases that were small, too small for him to even be annoyed with. So it just worked. I was like, he’s like, just take these cases, I don’t want to deal with them. So I got to keep the small cases that I had – nothing crazy. I mean, I’m talking maybe seven to ten cases of settlement value between ten thousand to fifty thousand, so the middle stuff, but for me, you know, if I settle all those cases, that was the same equivalent of my annual salary for the whole year. So you know, I was I think I made, I made 50k was the equivalent of my first year salary. So for me, I was like, all I need to do is settle five or 10 cases and I’m breaking even so this is a no brainer for me with my entrepreneurial mindset. So it was, you know, the moral of that story is just like, you know, you have no money. My mindset driving home was like:
You know, that whole thing and like, I’ll just figure it out. Like I’m going to get the first thing I’m going to do is I’m going to make a website so people know that I have a website. I And, you know, share screenshots of it, whatever, I look legit, I am legit in my mind. And that was, that was the first thing, the first thing that I always remember.
And it was a pain in the butt to get it online, you know, I had to make an account with GoDaddy then I had to buy a URL, you know, and each of these things when you’ve never done them before, each of these steps takes a half an hour to an hour to an hour and a half. It’s like, Well, how do I build a website? Do I buy software for that, you know, the kind of things that if you’re not a real entrepreneur, by like eight o’clock or nine o’clock at night, you’re going to be like, man, maybe I should just pay someone for this or go “can I afford that? Maybe I should just go look for a job”. So…
That’s kind of like, you know.
That, that’s exciting. You know, I got to applaud you. I mean, you hear you hear the term launchrepreneur. It’s like all these people have these big ideas, but they never take action. And you just you took action. So it what’s the saying? You can get it done and then get it right. Like you had the website right now you can improve it.
Now you can go from there. So I love that. So let’s, take it to the next level. You know, you’re getting business you’re, you’re accelerating, you know, what was one of the biggest turning points in your company? To kind of take it to that next level? Maybe that seven figure level? What was kind of going on there?
So perfect question. It was about… I went on my own in 2010, just grinding and I was doing PI cases, but I was also doing non PI cases – because when you’re that young, and that hungry, you don’t want to say “no” to anything. Which can be a good and a bad thing. But eventually you need to start saying “no”, which is kind of where the story’s going.
In 2014 … 2015 – right around there. One of my cases that had come in 2012 or ’13, started to really materialize. You found out there was a big interest policy involved, that we didn’t know at first. You know, the client wound up getting a spine surgery, the liability was good kind of the first case there – really where everything fell into place for me, and had a really good relationship with the client, you know, in dealing with her directly now for two years. I brought (this is another important thing), I brought another firm on to try to litigate the case with me, because I knew that in order to get the true big money on cases, you need to have a team, you need to have, you know, recognition within the industry, you know, you the insurance companies need to know who you are, or at least somebody on the case that has tried cases. So I worked the case up and I got it into a nice posture where I was able to go to a friend of mine that I went to law school with (him and his dad had an amazing firm and had tried a lot of cases). And I said: “Look, this is a great case.” You know, it’s been worked up, the ladys on the verge of getting surgery. You know, let’s work on it together. And let’s do it 50/50 split. And they were okay with that. Whereas, you know, in another – if I hadn’t worked the case up and I just referred it out – I would have probably only got a quarter. So my the amount of fees that I would get would only be half.
So anyway, you know, long story short, you know. I put in the work on that case, we push that case, the lawyers up there were laughing. I went to every calendar call for a year because we had a judge that was very timid, and she didn’t want to make a lot of like forceful decisions. So anytime there was anything that came up, the judge just pushed it down and continue the case.
So finally got a good trial setting, and we settled the case (for not even seven figures), but but close to seven figures. And I said: “Okay”, you know, I’m still a single guy at this time. I had basically no overhead, I live in a studio apartment, and I share office space for like $300 a month. I think I made 140 grand or whatever was in my fees on that case. And I said, Okay, now I’m officially a PI lawyer. I’m now I can say no to all the garbage (I shouldn’t say garbage) but all the little stuff that was basically a distraction. “Oh, can you do a divorce for $2000 bucks or this litigation for $1500 bucks… I started saying no to everything. I paid somebody to redo my website, started branding myself as a PI lawyer… And so really the biggest thing for me was, you know, getting to a point where I felt like okay, “now this is what I do”. This is what I tell people what I do: this is my brand, this is my website, and I say no to everything else and this is all I do.
So that’s kind of the answer of really where I started to get traction in terms of business. That was a point right there. It was around 2014 … 2016.
That’s a great answer. That’s a great story. So you know this this kind of lines up your your morning routine, your focus. You just picked your niche and you went all in on it, and I applaud you because so many people want to just take everything – so they say: “yes, yes, yes”, but when you’re saying yes to a divorce for $2000 bucks, you’re saying “no” to marketing yourself for a big PI case. So that’s amazing.
So, you know, as you were growing. You know, as as your firm was growing, and your personal brand, you know, what were some of the big pitfalls or mistakes that you learn from? What were some of the big challenges that you face?
Yeah, I think it goes along kind of the same topic. Like, of saying no and being disciplined. But within the practice… so like, now not only did I have to say no (and I had to learn to say no to the other stuff) – which for me came relatively easily after a little bit of … there’s kind of a weird thing that most people have, that saying no is bad, you feel lazy maybe? Some people they feel like oh, no, I wouldn’t say no. But anyway, I got over that pretty quickly, but then I had to apply the same thing within the practice, which is like. Oh, I got this lead from this about this case, but it has all these problems, you know, but I want to sign up more cases, I want to do this blah, blah, blah. So I had to get much more disciplined as we go.
And this is something that, you know, I’m a big proponent that there are some things if not everything, then you just have to learn through experience. And you’re just, you’re not going to, and this is (I’m not going to say my buddy), my buddy just took a case to trial. And I was waiting for the result. I was actually there. He text messages me at the end of the trial saying, “client credibility is everything”. And I knew I knew what happened. He got, he got a defense verdict because his client was not believable. And that’s what I had to become more disciplined in and realize like look, even though a case sounds good, you know, you have to follow your instincts and you have to hone your instincts and you don’t learn these things until you’ve had a case that sounded great and then it turns out the client was lying to you the whole time. You look back and you say I should have been…
Now I know when I see those warning signs, I’m going to know that I’m not going to take a case like that. I’m not going to be blinded by, “oh, it sounds so good”. And who cares about this or that, like these things about this case sound great. So I’m going to like fall for it. And you know, like I said, I think you have to fall for it a few times. And then you know, not to fall for it in the future, you get refined.
So that was a big thing. I think. Learning how to say no, within the industry, getting better, getting more disciplined and just forming a criteria for what, you know, what is allowed in your funnel of your life, you know, in your case flow and what’s not allowed, you know, pretty much every day is a chance to get simpler and better at refining what’s allowed in.
Yeah, that’s incredible. So I mean, you’ve kind of identified those red flags. And now you can – you’ve been burned in the past by people, you know, that have lied to you. And now you can kind of recognize those and, kind of, identify those. So you don’t take the wrong cases. You know, so…
So what are some of your favorite? You know, so I know you’re a software guy, I know your tools guy. What are some of the tools that you’re using that you can strongly recommend for running a practice? What were some of your favorite tools?
Oh, man, I’ve used so many over the years. Um, you know, right now we’re using, and we’re one year in using a software called Lead Docket, which I really love. I’ve been working with the owners directly. Eric the owner is a programmer himself. So he’s been implementing a lot of the stuff for me. And I’ve customized it, you know, and there’s, I’m not even getting close to what I could do with it. But I have it customized.
So I’ll tell you kind of one workflow that I have, and it’s pretty cool. So like, if somebody messages us and it’s for a case in Georgia for example (we’re not licensed in Georgia). But because of all the work we’ve done with you over the years, Google sends a lot of people to our website. So someone messages us in Georgia and Patrice who’s my high school friend who works for us now – he’s an adjuster for 10 years and now he works for us – he’ll see that. And he’ll immediately in our lead docket portal, he’ll assign it to one of the firm’s that we’ve worked with in the past in, in Atlanta (let’s just say it’s Atlanta). And what will happen is, the client will get a text message from us telling them like, (which I wrote this), like, for example, I don’t know word for word what it says, but it basically says, “Thank you for contacting us, you know, because your case originated outside of where we practice law. We’re going to we’re going to introduce you to a firm in your area that we’ve worked with before that’s got great results” – and it automatically populates. It pulls like a merge field from whoever Patrice assigned, whatever firm he assigned to, it automatically pulls in the name of the firm – it says the whole message.
And then also what it does, is it puts a link to a YouTube video that I filmed, of me specifically introducing myself to the client and saying (and basically putting that whole text message into video form). So that they get to see my face. And they know that we’re working on their case, we know they know, we’re grateful, you know, and that’s been helpful in you know, the conversion and the human factor there. And actually, that video that YouTube video has gotten a bunch of comments and posts because people you know, they appreciate it there. They get caught off guard, they think they’re just messaging like a random law firm for like some quick legal advice about a possible case. Now they get this message, they get a law firm in their area that we know is good, and they get a personal video from me.
So that’s kind of just like a really cool workflow that, you know. Honestly, I set that whole thing up in probably 20 minutes worth of effort. But it’s the kind of thing that I never thought about the value of that until… I think I set that thing up like three months ago. It’s one of those things that just hits you during a meditation or in the shower in the gym, I’m like, wait, “I could just film a video, and include the link to the video in the text message”. And now these people are all going to be able to see me and know who I am and associate the name with my face.
The possibilities are endless. But that’s a cool little hack that I use and it’s, it’s working well for us.
That is an incredible workflow. So I can’t tell you how often, you know, first of all, the conversion rates for referrals are very low. But you know, in many cases because there’s like this weird handoff.
You know, when you’re referring someone by phone and the other person’s got to contact them… but having that text and that video from you is amazing. Not only that, the experience too. So a lot of times, you know when these firms have great reputations on Google My Business, they have great five star reviews and they’ll get a one star review – many times because they didn’t take the case – Right? And they refer them out. And the individual didn’t have a good experience. So even though they didn’t work the case, that person will leave them a one star review.
So in your case, you’re going out of your way to help this individual find, you know, you’re helping them. And so they have that experience. They’ll remember it. So they may recommend you to, you know, the friends and family in your location. So that’s just an incredible workflow. Yeah, thank you for sharing that. You know, so I’ve got…
Yea yeah, for sure.
Awesome. Awesome. I’ve got one final question. You know, we talked about a lot: we talked about, you know, morning routines, we talked about focus, we talked about, you know, personal branding, your workflow, your software. You know, what are some action steps that people should start doing right now, based upon the advice that you gave today?
Man, that’s a good one, um, some action steps…
I think one of the things that I’m working on right now that I think is really, really important is a concept called time boxing. And some people call it batching. I think especially from like lawyers and people that are busy and have just a million things kind of going at them in all directions is to be hyper hyper hyper aware of what you’re working on. And try and do certain activities in batches.
Like the classic example is email: You know, I used to do email on my phone, (because who doesn’t do email on their phone) it’s convenient and you want to catch up. You have 10 minutes while you’re ordering your food on your lunch break, and you’re going to catch up on some emails. What I realized though, is that you know… Email on any tasks that you’re going to do, if you’re going to do it correctly, you need fully focus. You, I really… ideally you need to be at your desk with your iPad. I have five iPads, two computers… I have all these different devices around me because that’s the way I operate. But you need to be like really aware of what you’re doing and tracking everything that you’re doing.
And if you just do things casually like off the cuff, like you might… if you do email on your phone (for example) and you fire off an email, like a couple people and you make an assignment to somebody and you’re not at your desk, like you won’t flag that email or you won’t properly categorize it because you know. I want to file this into the follow up category for this employee because I’m making sure that I’m doing you know file. I will add that to my daily diary.
I keep a diary of kind of everything that I’m doing throughout the day. And if I don’t have my iPad next to me with my voice dictation setup, I won’t add that email or that task that I said. So you know, the concept and if you just time box things and you do certain activities in clumps, you will get into a routine where you can do… I can do all my email I can do 200 emails in you know. At an intense emails, like with tasks, and follow ups, and to do lists and everything. If you just do it like super early in the morning, or late at night, or at a time where you can just be offline, or you can be really really really efficient with it. And you can get into a flow where you can be way… you can, not only can you do it faster, but you can do it better if you – if you isolate yourself off and you do everything in clumps like that, and then you’ll also have the benefit of… You won’t be distracted by your email during the other points of the day. So for me the time boxing thing is huge. People know – everybody that works with me, and especially my wife, and she’s the same way – you cannot allow distractions to come into your world when you’re doing important work you know. It’s just on so many levels it’s bad if you want to see some some drastic results.
Start being you know, very selfish with your, with your barriers while you’re trying to get work done. You know, we had a laugh before we started this podcast because we both taped up “Do Not Disturb” signs on the window. I did also, did the other thing, which is you know: I changed the settings I put my phone to “Do Not Disturb” mode. But then I also went into the settings and I changed it so that it rejects all calls during do not disturb mode (even when the phone is locked or unlocked). So little things like that you’ll become more aware of as you protect your time. Um, for me, that’s a huge thing.
I’m also reading a book called Indistractable right now, which is basically the whole point of the book is kind of that topic about how to get better and become more focused, and just become more efficient at the tasks, and it actually has a lot of benefits too – in terms of like family time. I’ve been putting these, these practices into play with my family time and my wife’s a lot happier because when I’m with her now, I don’t feel the urge to check my phone as much because I know that I can’t really do a good job (as I look at my phone anyway). It’s like: What? Am I going to look at this email? And then write an email? But I won’t even be able to flag it. I won’t Be able to add it to my to do list, I won’t be able to do any of the things that I really should be doing when I’m doing email anyway? Because I’ve now I’ve seen what it’s like to really do email the right way. And I don’t even want to look at my phone when I’m at dinner anymore, when I’m with the family because I can’t do what I wanted, what I really need, and should be doing anyway. So it builds a kind of a revolving virtuous cycle there.
So that’s a big thing. I think. I think a lot of people that are going to watch this, and listen to this will get a lot of value from that.
Yeah, that’s an amazing tip. That’s… thank you for sharing that. That’s just – focus, time management, concentrating on those high value activities. You know, so, Brent, thank you so much.
You know, guys, we’ve been talking to Brent Sibley, the co founder of SibleyDolman Accident Injury Lawyers. Brent, where can we learn more about you?
So if you like me, a best thing you can do is follow me on Instagram. You know, you’re probably not surprised that I said that. My Instagram is just at Brent Sibley. Our main URL for the people who want to see our legal work on the law side is dolman law dot com. And then if you go to my Instagram, and you want to follow me on other places like if you don’t have an Instagram account, just pull up my Instagram on your browser and you’ll see a link there which links out to my Facebook and LinkedIn links out to all my other my stuff like that. So my Instagram is kind of like my…
I view my Instagram as my business card. The modern business card.
I love it. I love it, Brent. Thanks so much.
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